Palin Family Supports Chick-fil-A Bigotry

oops.. "in en mass" was supposed to be simply "en mass" -- forgot to delete that "in" lol.. *facepalm*

Typical progressive B.S.
If you don't agree with me you are a racist...bigot! RACIST!!!! BIGOT!!!

Q: Did Chick Fil-a fire someone for being a homosexual? Did Chick Fil-a refuse to hire some one for being gay?
A: Nope

No bigotry at Chick Fil-a, nada!

All I have to say to you is this:

Derp.

Well of course,
What else are you going to say? You can't support your bigotry accusation.
Not in the Chick Fil-A corporation or in the Palin family.

But to you it's NOT important that bigotry really exists or not what is important is that you make the accusation in attacking those who do not support your secular progressive agenda.

See above response.

The only bigot I see these days is you Hoffman with your bigoted stance against Christians.

yuh, I'm a "bigot" against any group of people who command and condone the execution, persecution and stifling of rights of entire groups of people. How intolerant of me.

lol

See above response.

exactly -- the one right above yours 0_o

No not that one.

That's the only one that matters ;)

Hmmm,
J, I think you have a point there.......But we already know don't we?

J. wright -- you're spitting a little foam out there eh?

lol

glad maine doesnt have one these!

It's my belief that boycotting someone's business because he holds views that oppose one's own is the opposite of free speech. It's bullying, censorship and disrespectful.

An American who truly believes in freedom of speech will work tirelessly to defend the rights of every person to express his beliefs. We need to respect everyone's rights, not just those who agree with us.

funny, so protesting something you don't believe in isn't freedom of speech? Considering it's specifically part of the constitution, I'd say your beliefs are ill-informed. 0_o

But you're entitled to believe what you want, however wrong your beliefs might be :)

here you go, Jan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly

So you don't believe in the freedom of assembly? What else in the U.S. constitution do you "not believe in?"

;)

The right to free speech is an important part of the Constitution. That's why it is crucial to a free society to defend every person's rights. Free speech and freedom of assembly allow for protests that are orderly and respectful.

I do believe in the Constitution. It's boycotting or using other forms of bullying tactics to intimidate a free speaker that I don't believe is a Constitutional right or respectful behavior.

I suggest you read the constitution. Your beliefs are ill-informed. However, again, you're free to have those misinformed beliefs to your heart's content.


"respectful" isn't a part of the right to assembly either, btw. It's the right to peacefully assemble. And that's precisely what this boycott is. People are peacefully assembling in essence (not even physically) to encourage people who respect the liberties of homosexual Americans to NOT spend their money at a business that then donates that money to groups who support the suppression of gay American rights.

That's not bullying.

But again.. you're free to "believe" whatever you want. The facts differ from your beliefs, however.

p.s. - - the constitution protects "disrespectful behavior," comrade ;)

here you go, this should be useful to you... unless you just want to hold onto misinformed beliefs. I for one respect an educated person more than a blindly opinionated person, though:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution.html/

The authors used the word "peaceful". It's not terribly different than "respectful". The concept is the same.

My comments are limited to respecting freedom. The subject of the boycott is another matter.

peace·ful/ˈpēsfəl/
Adjective:
Free from disturbance; tranquil.
Not involving war or violence.

re·spect·ful/riˈspektfəl/
Adjective:
Feeling or showing deference and respect.


ahem...

I find it unsettling that an adult American "believes" the constitution only applies to "respectful" people. That's why I'm going to duck out and limit my conversing with only posters who post informed comments. Yours are simply not informed comments. They're the opinions of someone who simply does not understand rights and liberties while basically expressing the opinion that people should "respect" a company's anti-equality stance instead of expressing their first amendment rights to boycott peacefully. But again, that's your right to be ill informed. But those of us who ARE informed will continue in supporting the American right to peacefully protest against something we are against. (i.e. spending customers' money on anti-freedom agendas for religious hatemongering). Chick-fil-A supports the bullying of homosexual Americans, and hey, that's their right. But it's my right to boycott them.


And with that, I'll be ducking out until someone who at least knows the differences between "peace" and "respect" posts a comment.

Have a good one.

As I've said, the definitions are not very different, are they? My point, exactly.
A disrespectful protest probably wouldn't be peaceful.

see above response

I for one am in full support of boycotting,
And honestly I remember a whole lot of boycotting going on by good ole American conservatives when the Dixie Chicks badmouthed the U.S over in the E.U..
Not saying that you have changed your position on this at all Jan, but for those who are whining about the proposed boycott they should try to remember back a few years.

Gotta admire Antoine Dodson's position on it though,...Not a sheeple like most gay progressives who react with mock outrage just so they can trash on people who they think are standing in the way of their agenda.

no no no, Jan is trying to say that it's only okay when people who support her own agendas boycott and protest.. the rest of them are "disrespectful" which in her mind means the same thing as not peaceful.. or something..

that made my head hurt...

I am still perplexed at how boycotting a place is a form of bullying? People have a right to not eat at a place that supports something - a cause - that goes against their beliefs. How is that bullying? I will not eat there because I am appalled that in the company's name = millions of dollars each year are donated to hate groups.

dammit jeanne, you will respect them and you will do it now. the constitution doesn't apply to people who don't respect chick-fil-a!

(sarcasm)

damnit,
Chelsea.....just....damnit!!!! LOL!!!

lmao

And boycott is a former of expression, of free speech in essence. The people who own Children-fil-A have the right to their opinion and to use their money as they see fit. The people who disagree with their stance also have the right to use their money as they see fit, including by not spending any of it at Chuck-fil-A franchises. They also have the right to speak out and encourage other to do likewise.

I think two things will happen as a result of this:. Chuck-fil-A will actually do better as a chain as many homophobic rally to buy their product, and; support for gay marriage will rise nationwide.

*form of expression, not former

Rory, that was a very well constructed comment. My only thing would be in the misuse of 'homophobic'. This is a fully politicized compound word that suggests that all those who disagree with gay marriage are somehow in fear of homosexuality. I submit that the great majority of those who do oppose it are in no actual fear... but merely disagree with the concept.

:)

I am sure there are folks who are opposed to homosexuality ideologically. However, to actively campaign against human rights for people doing things that don't involve you requires a big dose of fear or hatred. I further suspect that most virulent anti-homosexuals, or homophobes, are in fact closeted homosexuals in denial. They hate gays because of their hatred of their own nature.

The Right Wing extremists, the Tea Baggers, and the anti-Obama crowd have given companies like 'Bigotty Chicken' the green light to reverse all that's good about America and return to the days of discrimination, hatred, bigotry and racism.

I'm glad that there is a backlash. I only wish that Conservatives would stay out of other people's business. They are the hypocrites as they rally against same sex marriage while they, themselves, are the most closeted homosexuals on the planet.

I used to patronize Chick-fil-a probably only 4 to 5 times per year. Now I will not be able to enjoy their food because their bigotry would leave a bad taste in my mouth.

I just can't stand discrimination, bigotry and hatred. We are all Americans first. That should stand for something.

It only does it you are a Christian wrapped in intolerance, Lloyd 'Tony' Cope. Apparently, being an American today is not enough for some folks, who want us all cut from the same mold.
It's so nice to know that so many propose to know the mind of God - sometimes I wonder if they can even find a church that's good enough - or big enough - to hold all their hate and bigotry. It must be nice for those who just know they are so perfect they've got a straight path to Heaven.

Wonder if Dick Cheney will patronize them?

Maree, you and the political party need to stay out of other people's business and keep your bigoted and hateful thoughts to yourselves.

Stay out of people's bedrooms. Stay out of women's vaginas.

If 'Bigotty Chicken' want to disparage those of whom they disagree, then stay out of communities that have approved same-sex marriage.

"I sorry I hurt your wuttle feelings". But if you can't handle it you get off of it.

So stop it Maree. Stop it with your little tantrums. It is simply foolish as YOU act like a first grader.

This whole diversion tactic of trying to make the discussion about radical Islamists (who, obviously, are also homophobes) is like a first grader trying excuse their own misbehaviour by saying "He did it first!!"

Exactly how does the homophobia of Muslim countries excuse it in Americans?

And why do conservatives claim to be all for personal liberty when they work so hard to impose their narrow religious beliefs on everyone else?

I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with being from England, actually.... That was kind of an ignorant comment.

j. wright Jul 30, 2012, 5:49pm EDT. Lloyd just curious what country do you live in?

I live in the United States of America. I paid over 8000 dollars in taxes last year and didn't complain about it or try to avoid it by hiding it in the Cayman Islands, Switzerland or Bermuda.

I am a true American who loves his country and it's President.

CAN YOU OR MITT ROMNEY SAY THE SAME?

FourMore Years Jul 30, 2012, 7:30pm EDT. BRAVO Lloyd, well said! You know you're right when met with so much resistance and disdain from these two, maree and j!


For nearly four years they've done everything in their power to undermine, weaken and discredit a sitting President. Now they cry foul when someone like me reacts to their un-American behavior.

They can't come up with a Republican candidate palatable to the majority of the American electorate so they are suppressing the votes of millions and redistricting on a daily basis.

In other words, they are trying to steal another Presidential election.

Why on Earth would you feel compelled to tell us what you paid in taxes last year? As for Romney, since he has not actually released his financial information, I am assuming you are basing your conclusions on Obama's TV ad...

Chelsea Hoffman Jul 30, 2012, 7:38pm EDT. I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with being from England, actually.... That was kind of an ignorant comment.

Chelsea, you must realize that these people are still fighting the Civil War and our independence from Great Britain.

They actually believe that they were the original inhabitants of our nation. It's their country; not to be shared by anyone but those with extremist views.

There's a thing called Karma and it's a bitch. Watch out.

Vic Damico Jul 30, 2012, 7:46pm EDT. Why on Earth would you feel compelled to tell us what you paid in taxes last year?

Because I paid it and didn't BITCH about it.

I think the problem is that too many people fought for independence from their minds. :(



I pay an assload in taxes every year too... oh how i miss the days of getting tax returns, but those don't exist when you work for yourself :( :( :(

As for Romney, since he has not actually released his financial information, I am assuming you are basing your conclusions on Obama's TV ad...

Romney has no real convictions. The only thing he is firm on is NOT RELEASING HIS TAX RETURNS. THAT LEADS ME TO BELIEVE HE HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE.

Romney has actually spent more money on his campaign than Obama.

But you probably need a popup book to grasp that :(

bahahahahahahahahahahhaah!

I have read with interest and noted that most of the debating on this article's subject has concerned or been centered around comments by member Jan S. as to her assertion of "Bullying, Censorship and Disrespect" by protesters in their boycotting of the Chick-Fil-A businesses around the country.

First of all, boycotting a business or corporation for any reason, is none of those things. Such demonstrating of one's displeasure with the ideology and/or actions of a business, is only choosing to exersize one's American basic rights as are expressed and granted under/by the Bill of Rights within the U.S. Constitution.

To the point: I am boycotting all Chick-Fil-A corporation's owned business and franchises not because of the owners personal nor religious beliefs. Because, I personally do not give a damn what the owner's personal, political and/or religious preferences are. I am doing so, because a portion of the net proceeds earned by that corporation has been spent to encourage the changing of established laws to discriminate against a specific group of American people. This type of seeking to have others of a different belief, lawfully made to comply with the teaching of his religion, is a direct interference with rights granted and guaranteed within the U.S. Constitution.

In my personal opinion, using any money earned by a corporation to promote the passing and institution of such discriminating laws against specific groups of people is bigotry at it's most horrific and evil employment. To do so in the name of one's chosen God and/or religion, is pure blasphemous evil at it's worst and has no place in our society.

Mr. Cathy, his family and his staff of laborers throughout America are free to hold whatever religious and/or personal beliefs they so desire. However, no person, no group of citizens, no business owner(s) nor any corporation(s) has the right to force their individual and/or collective beliefs, religious or otherwise, on others. In truth, that is exactly what Mr. Cathy is trying to accomplish by using gained financial proceeds from his CFA business to promote the enactment of new laws, both here in America and in a foreign country, which discriminate against other people. Essentially attempting to force his religious beliefs on those who hold different views and beliefs.

I wonder, how Mr. Cathy and his supporters would react if a corporation owned by a Muslim or for that matter, any other different religious belief, should use their business proceeds in an attempt to change laws which would force Mr. Cathy and those who share his religious beliefs to comply with and adhere to the Muslim followers religious beliefs or parts of that religions doctrine.

It would appear that both Mr. Cathy and those who hold the same religious beliefs, have forgotten that there is a freedom from imposed any religion and/or specific religious beliefs in our country. (i.e. Americans are free to believe as they so choose) I have heard all the so called arguements professed by religious zealots, such as, "saving the sinner from his sins" etc. etc. etc. But, who are and what gives these religious promoters the right to decide what is sin and who is a sinner. Once again, it would seem that Mr. Cathy and those who share his religious beliefs, have forgotten that according to their own religious doctrine, it is God and God alone who shall make such judgements.


Further, the CFA corporation has also used financial earnings in an attempt to promote the institutionalizing of laws in the foreign country of Uganda. Laws which if implemented, will not only criminalize all citizens of that country who are of a specfic sexual orientation, but may result in such peoples execution. For me, anyone who can view promoting of such demonsterously unfair laws as being within the realm of saving one's soul from eternal hell, are as evil as the Satan they claim to hate and fear. Further, IMO, by supporting such laws, these religious zealots are actually promoting evil, not fighting it, and are certainly not promoting the Christian faith as I remember it being taught to me in my youth.

I am impressed - you have articulated exactly my thoughts on this matter - only far better than I could ever express them!

Scott's comment bears repeating in bold:


"Further, the CFA corporation has also used financial earnings in an attempt to promote the institutionalizing of laws in the foreign country of Uganda. Laws which if implemented, will not only criminalize all citizens of that country who are of a specfic sexual orientation, but may result in such peoples execution. For me, anyone who can view promoting of such demonsterously unfair laws as being within the realm of saving one's soul from eternal hell, are as evil as the Satan they claim to hate and fear. Further, IMO, by supporting such laws, these religious zealots are actually promoting evil, not fighting it, and are certainly not promoting the Christian faith as I remember it being taught to me in my youth."

I just wish this food chain was in my geographic location so I could avoid going there.

My thanks to the author for another thought provoking article.

As to Sarah and Todd Palin, what else would one expect from grandparents who's grandson refers to his Aunt (their daughter) as being a "Faggot" The child did not pick that word out of the air to use in a sentence. It would take numerous times of hearing a word for a four year old child to not only remember how to pronounce the word, but in what contexts the word could be used. (i.e. as a subname when speaking to another person)

The child's mother, (Sarah & Todd's daughter) certainly did not pick the word out of the sky either. She must also have been acquainted with it's use in her childhood and now appearantly and customarially uses the word when carrying on conversations in front her child.

The mother of this bigoted family was promoted by the RNC as a Vice Pesidential candidate. Go figure !!!

To both Jeanne and Robert, thank you for your kind words.

F M Y

Thank you, your acknowledgement is always appreciated.

Sarah Palin takes any opportunity she has to make a snide comment and/or gesture. She's as insecure as all other bigots.

very true!

The result of being a flaming attention-shore but having nothing cogent to say.

When the spotlight dims, the stage electrician must increase the energy in order to once again illuminate the star for her audience. Hence, Sarah Palin regularly gins up the media's stage power to provide the necessary lighting to keep her shining bright for her dwindling fan club of fanatical supporters, as well as to feed her own self adoration and egotistical requirements.

"Some Palin trash"

"anyone with more than five brain cells"

"this jackass franchise"

"their narrow-minded, equality-hating, bible-thumping fan base."

"I for one respect an educated person more than a blindly opinionated person"

"the greasy grossness that is pumped out by the bigoted franchise"

"this mass purveyor of greasy hate-chicken."

"If certain people of the anti-gay-rights variety have a problem with that, well, they can just go to church and pray for an old-fashioned smiting"

For someone speaking against hatred for entire groups, your presentation does not exactly scream, "I am in search of peace."

I agree, J. Wright...I am not trying to be rude to Chelsea. I am merely pointing out that to speak against hatred should be done without further hatred in order to truly make the point believable.

Chelsea, I meant no disrespect.

Hi, J...I am not apologizing for my statement, but trying to get my point to be taken seriously, as it was meant. They were hateful words...That was my point.

:) Vic -- I never said I was in search of peace. I just speak my mind and choose to converse with those who are smart enough to keep up. You've been one of the VERY few who have a brain in your head enough to discuss things without sounding like a street-corner wino. I respect you for that.

That's why I'm glad you're one of my few "conservative" friends ;)

LOL...I was just kind of torn between your speaking of the stance of Chick-Fil-A and your description of the food...

"greasy hate chicken" -- made me actually crave a chicken sammitch.


I haven't been to a chick-fil-a in years.. they don't have them here in Vegas as far as I know. I used to love them and spent quite a bit of $$ there in my teen years. I'm sick to my stomach knowing that money I spent went toward these hate groups. I'm pretty angry about it.

And yes, I realize some of my speech is terse against what I deem as unfit in our society. But it isn't like I'm donating millions of dollars to groups that travel the world seeing to the violent eradication of homosexuals. That's what chick-fil-a does. :(

Until this controversy erupted I never hear of Chik-fil-A, to the best of my knowledge they are not in Canada.

Dumb name. It looks like is should read as Chick-Fella.

Which is ironic.

Chelsea > Your articles seem to inspire hate speach. Does the DNC pay you to write this stuff and then defend it?

:) I can taste your jealousy. It's kind of cabbage-y

P.s. -- I don't write political articles for HuffPost. I write crime articles. And my views on the U.S. justice system are far from liberal.

But I know.. it's easier to just blah blah blah because reading is just so damn hard.

maree

Does the Huffington post have real writers

Yes, they do and the writers actually get paid for their work. How good they are at what they do is for the reading public to judge, not for anyone here on GN who does not read their written articles to question the validity thereof.

Also, as Chelsea indicated, your envy is quite evident, however, I don't taste it, I smell it and it smells a lot like fermented Korean Kim Chee.

;)

maybe when it's relevant.


(it's not)

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


And that's Pulitzer Prize;Not pulizer price...lol




@Scott -- also, in the next few weeks you may see me on Dateline! Been in discussions with a producer over one of the cases I've covered since 2011! Pretty excited about that and wanted to let it out lol

Congrats !!!

Hope it works out for you, I personally enjoy that show.

Me too! A while back (like several months ago) they did a segment on the Robyn Gardner disappearance. That was when the producer had first contacted me because of my coverage of the case.

Most recently they've contacted me about the disappearance and murder of Jaymie Adams -- I've interviewed the suspect's mother (Jaymie's husband) and it's perfect for the show. So I will either be on Dateline or mentioned regarding my coverage and whatnot.

I'm very, very, very excited about this. Way more excited than when HuffingtonPost approached me to blog for them.

Huffington post is a tad delayed anyways, and I cannot wait to see you on Dateline! =D

From the article: "Naturally there are conservative voters who are "upset" with the boycott against Chick-fil-A, calling it unfair while demanding that their First Amendment rights be respected."

Where to start? Well, how about that whole "rights be respected" thingy. I see damned little respect from the owners and supporters of the Chicke-Nit-Wit franchise. Oh, was that disrespectful? Well, it's only because I don't respect them.

But the worst of this entire statement is... it's pretty much the statement whites used when interviewed by TV reporters about the bus boycott that Rosa Parks inspired, and the restaurant and store boycotts inspired by a guy who owned a restaurant... and carried an "Arkansas Toothpick" (an ax handle). Of course, that was WAY back in... 2009-2010?!? Thought I was gonna say the '60s, dintcha?

Nope... our most recent national election. Oh, it was ubiquitous in the '60s; especially in the deep South. But you remember Rand Paul, don't you? "The Civil Rights Act shouldn't apply to private business." Remember that? Did you think he spoke from isolation?

Chuck

"The Civil Rights Act shouldn't apply to private business."

Yes, I remember Rand Paul making that statement. It was a clear case of the son imitating the father's racism. The only difference being the son was stupid enough to say it to the media, where the father wrote it and thereby was able to deny that it was his words.

I think I ate there once 4 years ago. It never was on my list of "must haves" when it came to fast food.

I think Sarah Palin wanted to give people something to talk about... I guess she was trying to ride this scandal to stay in the news. This must be culture shock for her because you can't hunt for chickens to eat successfully with a high power rifle/shotgun shooting from a helicopter... they run fast and all that buckshot would leave nothing but a cloud of feathers...

Sarah Palin's husband is hot! I would love to make out with him.

(Apologies to my socially conservative friends.)

Tell it, sista'!

Anita Bryant was beautiful too, and had a gorgeous singing voice. Icky when such pretty people are bigots...

(and Sarah can't sing)