The green agenda is used to counter what is considered by some as a climate change crisis brought on by the actions of man. The alarmists will not listen to any opposing views, despite the credibility of those raising concerns, and have unscientifically declared a "scientific consensus" that climate change is real and it is man-made, and to avoid certain environmental doom, major changes in policy need to take place right urgently, despite the cost to society.
A video has been released from the Heartland Institute's 7th International Conference on Climate Change. Myron Ebell from the Competitive Enterprise Institute spoke at the event and hammered home the need to "make the scientific case against alarmism." He mentioned that "Obama and his allies have pivoted from the rationale of global warming catastrophe as the reason for their [green] agenda, to rebranding it as a new, clean green energy economy." The Heartland Institute has been battered lately, after Peter Gleick admittedly illicitly obtained documents that he then sent to environmental alarmists. One 2 page memo was allegedly forged by Gleick, although Gleick denies it and remains a darling of the global warming activists.
Fortunately, this snag did not impact the Heartland Institute's annual conference, where a number of "man-made climate change" sceptics and believers had presentations and panel discussions.
Ebell continues to say that the "moral superiority" of the alarmists is that they are ultimately saving the environment from certain global catastrophe. Although they may not talk so much about it anymore in public because it "isn't selling," this is the underlying reason for their "confidence" and the point remains, that this moral superiority will be used in the efforts to "radically transform our economy and political society." Ebell mentions that the "Cap and Trade" law was one big objective that could be combated, but the alarmists have a new strategy of blocking energy production. So, one big "target" to address has turned into a "bunch of little targets."
Blocking Access to "Conventional Energy Production"
Ebell reaffirms that there is an active attempt to block access to "conventional energy production," and gives some examples:
- Permit denied for Keystone XL Pipeline
- Federal land permitting and leasing for oil and gas exploration has been blocked
- Permits have not been issued for exploratory wells
Off shore, there has been a moratorium on drilling and permits again have been excruciating slow for off shore oil. Additionally, Ebell explains, Coal has been a "bigger target," and cites the Stream Buffer Rule. He also notes that there has been an "incredible increase in mine safety inspections." There is one bright spot, and that is that land that is not federally owned is not subject to the same limitations of permits, etc.
The Biggest Threat
Ebell states that what is, "by far the largest threat to our prosperity and freedom" is the "regulatory onslaught that the Obama Administration has put together for the use, the burning of conventional energy of coal, oil and natural gas." He gives some examples of these, such as the endangerment finding and the green house gas regulations. Ebell says that if these regulations are implemented, the economy will be "dead in the water."
One rule, the "Ozone" or "Smog" rule has been postponed until after the election, in spite of massive grumbling from global warming alarmists, as the Manufacturers Alliance Policy Institute "puts the price tag at $1 trillion a year (in a $19 trillion economy). This suggests that the President knows that these regulations are killing the economy. He is happy to continue to do that, but wants to get re-elected first."
Ebell notes that these rules are being established without any "Congressional involvement." He said, "If we don't do something to push back and block these regulations, I don't think we will ever get back on that path of 3 to 4% growth per year." The green agenda may have started with good intentions, but the lack of compromise and the alarmist nature of those in the movement diminish their credibility greatly.
Watch Myron Ebell's presentation here:






Comments: 92
Hear, hear, for the latest B.F. scapegoat! "Connie scum-sucking swine!"
Well-said, Renee!
The one thing that stands out with their nonsensical utterings is their hatred of the oil industry and it’s this fact alone that gives it all away. These Warmageddonist Muppets do not give a dam about climate change; oh, they talk a good game we see this in every post that they post here on Gather but the fact of the matter is that Climate Change or Global Warming is a very good weapon to beat each one of us about the head to try and brow beat the ones who are far more intelligent to believe the utter rubbish that they spout about CO2.
They are a dangerous breed of idiots who would bring down the country that they profess to love with their green agenda and that includes you R.F that will never work in a month of Sundays. Only this month Germany who these idiots like to show to everyone that they are leading the world in alternative energy has put on the back burner their determination to have an alternative energy program. Why because Germany has just found out that it’s far too expensive to run a country on alternative fuel.
Home bills along with industry bills have shot through the roof in Germany. German people are finding it hard to pay for this alternative energy, industry have seen their gas and electricity bills shoot through the roof and when that happens they have to put up prices and who are the ones who have to suffer because of this? Yes got it in one you and I
http://thegwpf.org/international-news/5796-green-energy-transition-germany-fears-de-industrialisation.html
The full story is here however, it’s in German so you will have to translate it
http://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/kostenexplosion-merkels-strompreisluege-seite-all/6663536-all.html
If you can’t translate it, I can translate it for you.
It’s all right people like R.F muttering on about alternative energy but R.F forgets that there is a high price to pay for this energy an energy that into day’s world does not work properly an energy that would kill millions of people when in winter it stops working. These sort of people forget that little fact. As I said, they are very dangerous people indeed.
Rant over Renee. :-)
Well-said, Graham; Americans are in for the same "cold" reality, this coming Winter. Home-heating prices are going to skyrocket, and more will wake from their slumber...but by then, the election will have been decided...
Instead of ploughing the money into building new Power Stations across the length and breadth of the UK that would help to make the our bills cheaper, because I don't know if you know we buy quite a lot of our power from Frances Nuclear Power Stations the idiots on the Green advice have sunk the money into arty farty windy mills over 3,500 of the buggers that don't work and are a blot on the landscape.
This is a good reality check for the ones that want these windy mills.
http://www.windenergy-the-truth.com/
we should sit them down in a room and make the bastards digest the truth about them, mind you having said that the idiots would still ague that they are the best thing since sliced bread they are that brainwashed about alternative energy
It’s a long read so whenever you have a few moments to spare just sit down quietly and take a peek the site explains why they are a useless piece of engineering that these idiots have taken to heart in their quest to do away with all other forms of energy. Useless pieces of engineering for useless brain dead greens who are not fit for anything else in life but for being Green in more ways than one.
God why couldn't I have had a few of me lined up in front of me when I was in the military I would have been able to knock some sense into their brain dead heads.
Another rant over: -)
Wow
I do see you continue to confuse non-science industry lobbyists with "science." For example, and as you know since you often plagiarize their posts, GWPF has a long history of presenting disinformation. Lobbyists. Not science. That confusion seems to be a particularly common problem for ideological denialists who prefer anything they believe fits their narrative rather than learning actual facts.
C'est la vie.
As for the Halkema piece, it's a little odd to ignore all of the actual scientific information on wind energy in favor of a non-published 2006 blog of a former traditional energy corporation engineer who died 3 years ago at the age of 90. I'm sure that makes sense to you. Somehow.
Renee...quite.
http://thegwpf.org/international-news/5697-germany-faces-energy-disaster-next-winter.html
if you want to read the full report as its in German once again I can translate it for you
Piss of David who asked you to poke your biased nose into this post with your warped sense of superiority that is not relevant in this discussion you’re like a boil on Satan's arsehole.
Now wait for it Renee, we will have an epistle from the troll.
R.F I am sure Renee can distinguish even if you can’t when someone is speaking metaphorically. Alternatively, should I spend some time teaching you that you don't have to be physical to knock a little sense into someone's head? On second thoughts, I won’t bother, as nothing anyone says will get you to change your mind on certain subjects.
Since the cancellation of subsidies was announced green energy producers have been falling over themselves in the rush to announce closures of their operations.
Your double standard is showing.
Graham:
"warmegedisnests and doomotoligests that spout their nonsensical rubbish"
"The one thing that stands out with their nonsensical utterings"
"These Warmageddonist Muppets"
"but the fact of the matter is that Climate Change or Global Warming is a very good weapon to beat each one of us about the head to try and brow beat the ones who are far more intelligent to believe the utter rubbish that they spout"
"They are a dangerous breed of idiots"
"and that includes you R.F that will never work in a month of Sundays."
And let's not forget his accusations of causing mass murder:
It’s all right people like R.F muttering on about alternative energy but R.F forgets that there is a high price to pay for this energy an energy that into day’s world does not work properly an energy that would kill millions of people when in winter it stops working."
"As I said, they are very dangerous people indeed."
"the idiots on the Green advice have sunk the money into arty farty windy mills over 3,500 of the buggers that don't work"
"we should sit them down in a room and make the bastards digest the truth about them, mind you having said that the idiots would still ague that they are the best thing since sliced bread they are that brainwashed about alternative energy"
"that these idiots have taken to heart"
"Useless pieces of engineering for useless brain dead greens who are not fit for anything else in life but for being Green in more ways than one."
"God why couldn't I have had a few of me lined up in front of me when I was in the military I would have been able to knock some sense into their brain dead heads."
Versus...
David's complete comment:
Interesting rants. So besides denigrating those who bother to be informed, you think it is appropriate to threaten bodily harm to those with whom your lack of knowledge puts you in disagreement?
Wow
I do see you continue to confuse non-science industry lobbyists with "science." For example, and as you know since you often plagiarize their posts, GWPF has a long history of presenting disinformation. Lobbyists. Not science. That confusion seems to be a particularly common problem for ideological denialists who prefer anything they believe fits their narrative rather than learning actual facts.
C'est la vie.
As for the Halkema piece, it's a little odd to ignore all of the actual scientific information on wind energy in favor of a non-published 2006 blog of a former traditional energy corporation engineer who died 3 years ago at the age of 90. I'm sure that makes sense to you. Somehow.
Hmmmmm......
Double standard indeed.
Your slip is showing. I'm guessing this, and everything else you've said, will be considered by readers as they assess your credibility.
This is why it is a waste of time to comment on posts by people like this, R.F.
One wonders what criteria Gather use when choosing their SkyWriters.
Bye
David K. This is why it is a waste of time to comment on posts by people like this, R.F.
Unfortunately the double standard works both ways. Graham and R.F. have engaged in "insulting".
David overlooks R.F.'s.
Renee overlooks Graham's.
Seriously... and it's not just you guys right here, this "sports team politics" happens all the time almost everywhere. It's childish. Politics sucks: it unnecessarily pits us all against each other. Another reason, I say, to separate as much as possible from politics: a.k.a. leave things to the free market.
Newsflash dimwits, if you do not like what I have to say then do not come on a someone else’s post solely to insult me or the person who wrote the post. Now of you go slink away go fester, no one wants to hear what you have to say.
Third, rant over :-)
Ian, Spain, this is what happens when Government listen to people like those two idiots above. They pump loads of dosh from hard working people in to subsidising an industry that does not work, will not work and then wonder why they are bankrupt. What country can give around $800,000 per year for each Green job created like Spain has done. Those two mugs above are in favour subsidising an industry that makes electric cars like the Volt. How many people have brought that new Volt since it was brought out 5,000- 7,000 that is a subsidy of around $250,000 of state and federal funding per car. The Volts now come to the UK, we will not be holding our breath at the how many will be sold in the UK when they cost around £29,000 even when the UK government gives each Volt owner £5,000 worth Volt charging material.
R.F calls everyone a commie when answering a post that does not fit into the ideology of renewable energy. The fact of the matter is that R.F is Communist an old style socialist like what we had in the UK forty years ago who wanted the state to subsidise every job.
I like the comment that R.F gave about how patient that numpty is when explaining his position and how much he has to deal with the vicious bile he receives WTF is that all about R.F everyone on Gather knows how he deals with people that says anything about his precious ideology we have seen it first hand on many occasions how rude he is and how he attacks people. And you have the nerve to praise him perhaps two peas in a pod is appropriate when talking to you pair.
Good choice for a credible source to discuss science, eh? [Umm, not so much]
Facts are facts.
Goodbye
They do not place importance on what does Good; but upon what "feels" good.
Goodbye
I guess you have determined that we have "comment consensus".
I guess you have determined that we have "comment consensus"."
Laughs!
Sadly, the other side has serious problems too: they can be weak on economics, are often anti-science, use unethical tactics, and don't treat pollution correctly.
I think there's a solution for this mess: free market environmentalism.
unscientifically declared a "scientific consensus" that climate change is real and it is man-made
I have no dog in this fight- whatever the facts are, whether the consensus is right or not, my ideology is not threatened by whatever climate change there is. With that preface, I'd like to ask for evidence for the above quote: no scientific consensus? Really? My research indicated otherwise. Perhaps I missed something.