Obama is an arrogant snit, explains Rove.

And Karl Rove's just a humble country boy.

You know, wouldn't you have to be wealthy enough to attend country clubs to "know" this guy Rove is describing? Is Rove talking to the American people, or his own close circle of wealthy friends? This sounds like jealousy to me. Sort of like when a pretty girl walks buy and the frumpy woman says "I bet she had plastic surgery done."

Good article, Chris. And Julie makes a great point -- Rove is clearly only talking to the country club set when he describes Obama that way. Who else would even understand the reference?

& how many black guys do you see at the average country club, Julie? None.

Rove strategy: stand reality on it's head, and say it loudly and repeatedly. John kerry was the chicken because he served in Vietnam, George W. Bush was the hero because he did not. Huh?

Arrogance is not being the smartest guy in the room, arrogance is being the dumbest guy in the room and nonetheless bragging that you do not need to be a B student to become president and you can decide things without accurate information merely on the basis of your gut. And for many years, Karl, you licked his boots and glorified him, so do not tell us anything about arogance now.

thanks, Greg.

Hey, my guess is that Rove has a lot of experience in identifying arrogant snits...

and you're right, Chris... it isn't Obama who defines arrogance in this picture.

Sorry if that sounded wishy-washy. My point is that I'll trust my own judgment rather than Rove's.

Julie- you don't sound wishy washy. Is that a Beach photo that you used instead of your usual one? I envy you if so.

I certainly don't want someone running for office that isn't sure of himself and confident that he can do the best job as President. Confidence is a plus in terms of leadership, isn't it?

But I guess Mr Rove is the authority on the country club circuit, so he would know better than I would.

What I would like to know is who is still giving Rove a media platform from which to sound off, and why, given the nature of the message. Which reminds me of something I'd like your opinion on Chris, and that of your readers. I keep getting a sensation that this could, between now and the election, turn into 1964, only a bigger loss this time for the Republican Party. When I read sound bites like this which are only personal assasionation, it feels like the Republicans have nothing of any substance to offer us. If he really does, I think McCain should make sure that someone pulls the plug on useless old loose cannons.

Karl Rove by all rights should have been imprisoned by now and I base that on the Valerie Plame case. Libbey did participate but I believe he was the sacrificial lamb and that even if Bush did not know in the beginning about it that he DID know all the details long before Scooter was being tried. I am still dumbfounded that the best they could do was to imprison a reporter who did not run the story and then accept the resignation of Scooter and then he was tried for perjury. This is a high crime that was committed here and the fall out was not limited to the reporters, Valerie Plame or Former Ambassador Wilson. But what about every contact she had abroad and how many are still in existance.

Rove's job in the Administration was to figure out how to play the game to get W's agenda through. But he broke every rule and destroyed lives, not just people who were not "yes men", but the lives of dedicated people who were choosing their career to serve this country.

I wonder if he and well most of Fox News (I cringe at the typing of NEWS there) are scared that if Obama wins that they will find themselves on the outs. Or even if McCain wins and by some miracle turned back into the man he used to be would do the same. He is a mean nasty person and will use whatever is allowed and some of what isn't to get his guy where he wants him. And shame shame shame on those who stuck all of us with the second term. The Valerie Plame scandal was well known. The WMD's were well known. The "decider" who failed to listen to the Generals advising him then threw them under the bus when asked about it. All the info was right out there, but why? Was it the you don't change horses in mid stream, was it the 11 states that all had a vote on their ballots regarding same sex marriages that did it, was it the idea that "we feel safer since 9-11" which is bunk I felt much safer before 9-11. Was it the frequent changing of colors from pale daffodil to amber or citron? Was it that these voters actually preferred a man who cant speak off the cuff without coming across as having the speaking abilities of a 7th grader on cheese?

I hope Obama wins by a landslide. I hope that after that that congress will force this jackel and get to at least enough of the truth that he is not only impeached but then found guilty of sooo much. I hope that he goes to jail. Even if there is no jail time then manage to pay him a pension and whatever else they can do to him.

Deborah-

Plame's name was leaked to Robert Novak by Dick Armitage, who was Deputy Secretary of State at the time.

Libby was chosen as the "fall guy."

Thanks Chris,

You might want to read a similar post I just wrote on Rove as well.

What do they say----great minds think alike?

And Obama's arrogance continues.